3/20 Republic Assignment

1. Notice that our reading on Thrasymachus is divided into two parts. The first part is entitled – “First Statement and Criticisms”. In this first part, what are Socrates’ main argument(s) against the idea that justice is whatever the strong (i.e. the government) says it is?

That it's right to do what the stronger says and the stronger party sometimes makes rules that seem unfair or sometimes not in their interest.

That the rules the stronger makes are always in their interest of their subjects, not just themselves.

2. In the second part – “Second Statement and Final Refutation” – what are Thrasymahcus’ two main points and what are Socrates’ two main points in response?

Justice is what is good for someone else, especially the stronger
Socrates' response: This is the opposite of what he said earlier, where a doctor/Stronger will always help his people/patients

Injustice is just as good as justice it self
Socrates' response: There is always punishment for injustice

3. In your opinion, is it ever right to harm somebody? Why or why not? What would Socrates and/or Thrasymachus say in response to your answer?

I don't believe it's right at all to harm somebody. Especially if it's for revenge or selfish reasons. If you believe in Karma then what you do to that person then it will come around and bite you back. Besides if you do something to that person for something bad your only swooping down to there level and your not helping anybody. I'm Not Sure what they would say really. Haven't got a clue. They might disagree with me probably.